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Again, with the humanoids!

Published on Thursday, September 14, 2017 By cuorebrave In Founders Starbase

hu·man·oid
ˈ(h)yo͞oməˌnoid/
adjective
 
  1. 1.
    having an appearance or character resembling that of a human.
 

Brad just posted a picture in Discord, of a new alien... or redesign of a current one. This started off a fiery discussion on the chat, about the level of humanoid-ness in the SC: Origins aliens. It got off-track by differing definitions of "humanoid", so I'll start this by saying my definition of a humanoid, but anyone here is free to call it what they want. A humanoid, in my mind, would be categorized by an upright standing creature, generally adhering to the form of a human: a head, eyes, mouth, arms, hands and some form of legs. Number of eyes, legs, arms or hands is not important in this discussion. If you design a human with 12 eyes, it's still humanoid. Okay, moving on:

Here is a list of the non-humanoid aliens in Star Control II:

Slylandro (organic): Non-humanoid

Slylandro (robot): Non-humanoid

KZer-Za: Non-humanoid

Kohr-Ah: Non-humanoid

Zoq-Fot-Pik: Non-Humanoid

Ilwrath: Non-Humanoid

Umgah: Non-Humanoid

Mycon: Non-Humanoid

Spathi: Non-Humanoid

Mrrnmhrrm: Non-Humanoid

Chenjesu: Non-Humanoid

CHMMR: Non-Humanoid

Dnyarri: Non-Humanoid

Melnorme: Non-Humanoid

Supox: Non-Humanoid

Orz: Non-Humanoid

Here is a list of the humanoid aliens in Star Control II:

Syreen: Humanoid

Yehat: Humanoid

Arilou: Humanoid

Thraddash: Humanoid

Druuge: Humanoid

Utwig: Humanoid

Pkunk: Humanoid

VUX: Humanoid

Shofixti: Humanoid

Here is a list of the non-humanoid aliens in Star Control - ORIGINS (Confirmed by Brad):

Pinthi: Non-Humanoid

Phamysht: Non-Humanoid

Greegrox: Non-Humanoid

Mu'kay: Non-Humanoid

Xraki: Non-Humanoid

Jeff: Non-Humanoid

Mowlings: Non-Humanoid

Here is a list of the Humanoid aliens in Star Control - ORIGINS (Also confirmed by Brad):

Humans: Humanoid

Menk-Mack: Humanoid

Scryve: Humanoid (Unconfirmed)

Dan'Nath: Humanoid (Unconfirmed)

Trandals: Humanoid (Unconfirmed)

Measured: Humanoid

Tywom: Humanoid

Drenkend: Humanoid

 

To me, this is a deviation from the original Star Control races. They all have ELBOWS, ffs! Stardock was strongly opposed to "humanoids", and while I'd love to hear what the Devs' definition of "humanoid" is, I'd like to hear what everyone else has to say on the subject. 

Original SCII aliens were a ratio of 16 non-humanoids, not resembling humans whatsoever, vs 9 humanoid-like aliens.

Whereas SC: Origins is a ratio of 8 aliens that stand upright, with arms, legs, a head and eyes/nose/mouth (in that order), vs 7 aliens that don't resemble humans whatsoever. I think that should, at the very least, be switched around. 

16:9 vs 7:8

I mean, what's the aversion to making some truly WEIRD, outlandish designs? Does everyone :shrug: and move on, or is this a legitimate concern for people?

Point being: Since Brad posted a fresh alien-redesign TODAY - IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO CHANGE THE OTHERS. Even if it's just slight!

Thoughts? Corrections to the lists? Arguments?